User talk:Sparrowhawk8

Welcome
Hi, welcome to General Hospital Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the Jason Morgan (Steve Burton) page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Lovealways5671 (Talk) 03:34, July 30, 2010

Sonny
Do you know how to spell Sonny's actor's name? I've been referring to him as Maurice Benard, without the r in his last name, but I've seen him called Maurice Bernard, with the r. Slimey  01  03:23, January 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * It's Maurice Benard :) I checked http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001939/ for a reference. Sparrowhawk8 04:16, January 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I just wanted to check. Slimey  01  04:22, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

Supercouple ages
I wasn't sure what was supposed to go under "age" on the supercouple template. I wasn't sure if it should be their current age, which would be odd in the case of Claudia and Sonny since Claudia is dead and is no longer aging, or if it should be the age they were when they first got together/married. Or, should it be the "age" of the marriage (how long it lasted)? To me, it makes the most sense to put the age they were when they first got together since it doesn't really matter how old they are now, especially if they're no longer together. I don't know, what do you think? --Ylnani 04:19, July 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * I wasn't sure, but I was under the impression that it meant how old they are now. I didn't even think it could be referring to the age they were when they got together or how long their marriage lasted, but now that you mention it, I could see how both of those topics would fit into the age bracket. I also see your point with Claudia because when I was putting her age down, I was wondering if I should have done a "(31 at death)" type of thing. I don't know, I guess we could just put down the age they were when they first got together, but also add a little side note stating that it is the age they were when they got together/married, but it's not the age they are now. Sparrowhawk8 04:25, July 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm going to see if I can edit the infobox from just saying "age" to "age at ...(whatever)," but I'm not sure how to word it to be short and concise. How do you shorten "age when they first got together"?--Ylnani 04:39, July 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Although, I'm not even sure if it'll let me change it. --Ylnani 04:41, July 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * "Age when met" "Age when relationship began" are the only two I can think of right now, but the first one doesn't make much sense and the second is still kind of long. Sparrowhawk8 04:45, July 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Also "Age when couple met" doesn't sound too bad. Sparrowhawk8 04:47, July 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Also "Age when couple met" doesn't sound too bad. Sparrowhawk8 04:47, July 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Also "Age when couple met" doesn't sound too bad. Sparrowhawk8 04:47, July 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Okay, I found the answer. I won't change anything. On the Template page it says that the "age" field is for their age when they got married (or together if not married, e.g. Jason/Sam) Template:Infobox soap couple/doc --Ylnani 04:48, July 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay thanks, so all of the ages are going to have to be changed because I put in the ages that the characters are now and not the age that they were when they got married/together. Sparrowhawk8 04:50, July 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay thanks, so all of the ages are going to have to be changed because I put in the ages that the characters are now and not the age that they were when they got married/together. Sparrowhawk8 04:50, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Secret Life category
Can you please help me put characters in the category "The Secret Life of Damian Spinelli characters?" I'm not sure who all's in the book. Thanks! Ylnani 02:11, July 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Sure I can help no problem! Sparrowhawk8 02:14, July 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you! --Ylnani 02:25, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

Sam's marriages
They said that she had 5 illegal marriages, didn't they? Then she married Andrew Domman. I thought I remembered there being an Andrew Olsen as well. Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but if they're the same person, who was her fifth illegal marriage before Domman? Did they say? --Ylnani 23:23, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

There were five illegal marriages, but not all the aliases were revealed. The only ones talked about were Monroe, Curtis, McIntire and Black. The clip you referenced from 2005, was when Sam was kidnapped by Allegra and forced to marry Andrew in Alicia's place to gain their freedom. The Andrew Olsen referred to on most of Sam's profiles is the Andrew from 2005, and he is the only Andrew that she ever married. I'm actually not even sure who Andrew Domman is because the Andrew in that clip has always been referred to as Andrew Olsen. At least as far as I know, was he called Andrew Domman at some point during that storyline because I don't remember that being his last name. I'm not sure if his last name is Olsen or Domman but I know that Andrew is not one of the five men that she married/conned before coming to Port Charles because Bill Monroe was the only one of those men who had his full name revealed. The rest were simply last names. The Alicia Montenegro/Andrew storyline was onscreen but the other 5 marriages were off-screen events of the character's past. The Sandra McIntire alias was brought up in 2004 as part of the storyline with Bailey's Beach/her brother and the house fire and the Bill Monroe story was brought up as part of the Every Day Heroes/Amelia story in 2007, but the other 3 aliases/marriages only came in the form of names and one wasn't revealed at all. Sparrowhawk8 21:02, February 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you! I was a hazy on all that. I thought I remembered the guy Allegra had her married was named Domman (although I thought it was Dumond). But, I'm probably confused. --Ylnani 04:15, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Thx for the advice

Corinthos-Morgan mob family category
I don't know about the edit on the Corinthos-Morgan mob family category page. It's just a category page, not an article; so I don't think it needs the information you put on there, it's too much for a category page. Maybe you can create an article for the Corinthos-Morgan mob family with the information.--Ylnani 06:22, June 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, I may do that later. I was thinking of making a seperate page but most of the info that would go on the separate page is already on the Port Charles (city) page under The Mob: Sonny Corinthos and Jason Morgan. Can I move that info and then replace it with just the Corinthos family to go with the other families listed? --Sparrowhawk8 07:33, June 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Go ahead and make the separate page for Corinthos-Morgan mob family (you can move the info on the PC page to the new page if you want), I'll fix the Port Charles page. I'll just do a brief overview of the Corinthos family and the Corinthos-Morgan mob family with the tag for the family pages.--Ylnani 07:42, June 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Alright sounds good. --Sparrowhawk8 07:46, June 11, 2012 (UTC)

I updated the PC page to not include so much info. You can edit it if you want.--Ylnani 07:56, June 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Cool. I'm making the separate Corinthos-Morgan page now and adding more info to the info that was already on the PC page about the mob. --Sparrowhawk8 08:04, June 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Awesome :) --Ylnani 08:05, June 11, 2012 (UTC)

Jason page
I'm sorry I undid your edit when you created the gallery. I didn't mean to offend you, and I understand why you're upset. Galleries are of course allowed on character pages. However, I feel that character pages need photos throughout the page to break up the text (and to give readers a break from reading). Photos throughout the page also give visual examples to go with what the reader is reading. When photos are in a gallery at the bottom of the page, they are in isolation from the text and readers may not make connections between the text and photos. That said, I agree with you that the top of the page was very cluttered. That is why I tried to clean it up some. I think the problem with this page in particular is that the beginning of the article spans a very large amount of time (almost 15 years), with only a couple paragraphs. I think it's important to have a photo of Jason when he's a baby, but also when he's older, but still "Jason Quartermaine," but there's not a lot of room to put the photos. Ideally, there'd be more room to put those photos in a larger section (or more than one section). Anyway, I think a gallery would be a great idea to include additional photos at the bottom of the page, but photos still need to be included throughout. Please, if you can help achieve this, please do so. I hope that helps, and again, I'm sorry. --Ylnani (talk) 02:07, March 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * I understand the need for photos to break up the text and I do think it looks better that way visually. Thanks for the explanation and I will try to help if I can. Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 05:36, March 9, 2013 (UTC)

Tabber
I'd never seen that before. I had to look at the page you did to see what you were talking about. I actually love it! I think it's great and will help keep the pages shorter. I can't foresee and issues other than, like you said, the longer section headings; but we can just go for the years, that's good. Go for it! --Ylnani (talk) 05:35, December 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * One question, what happens when the subsections (years) tabs are longer than the space provides? Does it scroll? Does it go to a second line? I'm thinking about maybe some characters who have been on for decades. --Ylnani (talk) 05:37, December 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure but I was thinking of that too. The primetime wiki's that I saw with tabbers were for shows with only three seasons, so they hadn't run into that issue yet but I was thinking about it. If the subsection tabs become too long, then I was thinking maybe we could just have two tab templates on one page. The first template can hold a certain amount of years until the tab gets too long or doesn't fit, and when that happens we can just put the following years into a second template right under it. Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 05:42, December 15, 2013 (UTC)

I tested it in the "elements" section on the Port Charles (city) page. It adds a second line of tabs. I also noticed that there's no longer an "edit" button for each section, just for the main section. So, you'd have to click the edit button next to storylines for example since you can't edit just the 2008 section. Also, if you have subsections under one tab, it shows that subsection in the table of contents at the top, but not the different tabs.--Ylnani (talk) 05:47, December 15, 2013 (UTC)


 * I see what you mean. I went to the elements section and tried clicking on Pier 52, but it wouldn't take me there. I was thinking about the characters that have been on for decades, and maybe if we assign on template to each decade it would help to break the years up so that the subsection headings don't get too long. As for the Port Charles (city) page, maybe we can also try breaking that into two templates as well, so the headers don't look as congested and it will be easier to edit. Or maybe this template will work better on some pages and not others, so it doesn't have to be used throughout the whole Wiki. I think it the template might be useful in the Residents and Residences section of the Port Charles city page but doesn't necessarily have to be used throughout the page. Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 06:01, December 15, 2013 (UTC)


 * I think it'll be fine as long as we don't have subsections within each tab. If we have subsections, I think it makes the table of contents confusing since it shows the subsections but not the tabs.--Ylnani (talk) 06:02, December 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree that it won't be real good for all pages; it's good for mostly the characters and couples. I think it'll be okay even for characters who have been on for a long time because a lot of the older storylines don't have info for every year, usually like 1970-75, or something like that.--Ylnani (talk) 06:06, December 15, 2013 (UTC)


 * Okay I think so too. I'm going to try to find a page of a character that has been on for a while and test it out, just to see what may work best. I thought the template would be most useful on character and couple pages, and I really hadn't thought of how it might be used on other areas of the wiki like location pages. Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 06:09, December 15, 2013 (UTC)

For a minute my mind went a little blank when you were talking about having subsections within the tabs lol but I see what you mean now. When I was first testing the tabs on the Spixie page, I deleted the subsection headings that were under the years, so only the year showed up in the tab and I didn't run into that problem. Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 06:13, December 15, 2013 (UTC)

Nurses Ball Promo Shots
Hi there! Do you have the rest of the Nurses Ball promo shots? I would love to see them :) --Alexisfan07 (talk) 17:34, May 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * I posted all the large promo shots that I have, minus three of just Sam. This link will show you all of them, but they will be thumbnail size. http://abcmedianet.com/web/showpage/showpage.aspx?global_id=000261&type=asset&typecode=ph Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 17:58, May 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay thanks! So you don't have the Jordan ones? --Alexisfan07 (talk) 20:51, May 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * No sorry, I only have ones of Sam, Julexis, Cam/Emma and Molly/Sam. Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 20:53, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Pictures
Thank you soo much for posting pictures. I've been on vacation for the past week and don't have my laptop but i'll be back to helping upload pictures soon. Lantefan2012 (talk) 04:35, July 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * No problem. Happy to help! Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 04:37, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

Yay!!! :) By the way the pictures you posted are really good!!!!! Where did you get them? Lantefan2012 (talk) 04:42, July 5, 2014 (UTC)


 * Those came from where I usually get them from for the kids. StarKidz on YouTube. Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 04:53, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

Oh ok well they are really good! Oh Happy (late) 4th of July!! Lantefan2012 (talk) 04:59, July 5, 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Happy belated 4th of July to you too! Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 05:11, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

Your welcome! :) Lantefan2012 (talk) 05:58, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

Names
Yes, I totally agree! I've actually been trying to fix that very thing for years, but people inevitably go and put them back in. It's hard when there are so many users who want things done their own way. I think that any name listed in the opening paragraph (which I try to keep to "legal" names, and only put aka or nicknames there if that's what they're mostly known by) should not be listed as an alias in the infobox. This is also a problem for pages where it lists their full name as an alias, even though it's listed in the opening paragraph. If you feel like you have the time and patience to take this on, go for it! The only exception I guess would be putting nicknames in the infobox and the opening paragraph, like "Carly."--Ylnani (talk) 10:46, July 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * Great! I'll take it on and just do a little at a time. I'm also going to add a little note in each page I change, explaining why married/maiden names don't belong as aliases. That way if someone else comes along and tries to add them back, they will see my note and understand why they aren't needed there. Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 22:11, July 9, 2014 (UTC)

Can we keep Lulu Falconeri as an alias? Lantefan2012 (talk) 03:45, July 10, 2014 (UTC)


 * Sure. Hyphenated names are always a little tricky and I wasn't sure if it really counted as an alias, but since she is sometimes referred to as Mrs. Falconeri, then I guess it's okay. Add it back. Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 03:52, July 10, 2014 (UTC)

Ok cool Lantefan2012 (talk) 03:55, July 10, 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for taking this on! Yeah, I think Lulu Falconeri would be okay to keep as an alias since she's actually Spencer-Falconeri but is sometimes referred to as just Falconeri.--Ylnani (talk) 11:16, July 10, 2014 (UTC)

Couple infobox
I changed the "marriage" field to "dates" and got rid of the "end" field. I always thought the "end" field was repetitive anyway since the end is often listed in the other field anyway. I fixed all the couple pages with the new field name and took out the "end" field. I also made all the couple pages uniform in that I only used 3 letter abbreviations for all the months and shortened the long explanations in the "status" field to be short and concise. --Ylnani (talk) 04:15, August 14, 2014 (UTC)


 * Wow thanks. I'm about to check out the changes now and if you ever have the time, I'd like to learn how to edit and create templates. Thanks. Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 04:29, August 14, 2014 (UTC)

Scroll box
I think it'd be good for some things that aren't very long, but I feel that the elements section is too long and I just prefer the tabber template for sections that have more information. I think the scroll box would be better used for smaller sections like the society section. --Ylnani (talk) 06:26, August 20, 2014 (UTC)


 * I can see how the elements section is a bit too long for it. There was quite a bit of scrolling to read the entire text, so I can remove the scroll box from the elements section and replace it with a tabber instead. I was also thinking of using the scroll box on some of the couple pages that have quote sections like, Sonny and Brenda Corinthos. --Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 16:04, August 20, 2014 (UTC)

Scribner
Hi, I saw that some else made a page for Scribner and I was wondering if you could merge the two pages or delete the one that the other person made? Your page is the better one! Or if you could in contact with Ylnani and have her do something because she hasn't responded to my message. Thanks! Lantefan2012 (talk) 01:22, August 29, 2014 (UTC)


 * I contacted the person who made the second page this morning and told them it was a duplicate. I looked over the page and there's not much to merge because all of the information from the "Agent" page is already on the Jeffrey page with further detail. I can't delete things on here. The most I can do is add a delete tag, but I'd rather have Ylnani handle that as an admin because I don't want to just go in and delete someone else's work. That may offend them so I think it would be better if an admin explained. I'm sure Ylnani will get back to you as soon as possible. --Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 02:54, August 29, 2014 (UTC)

Navigation bar
I'm sorry, but I don't know what you're talking about. The top navigation bar looks perfectly normal on my computer. Maybe it's you're computer/device? Maybe you can check other wikis on Wikia and see if you have the same problem.--Ylnani (talk) 08:09, August 30, 2014 (UTC)


 * I think you're right it was probably my lap top because now everything looks normal, but yesterday the navigation bar looked like the ones on starter Wikia's. Thanks for getting back to be anyways. --Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 16:25, August 30, 2014 (UTC)

Nicknames
I just started actually. I find it easiest if you go to the "characters" category and work alphabetically to ensure you don't miss any. That's just me though. I've started from the beginning and am on C. If it's too confusing for two of us working on it, I can stop. I just though I would help. Or, one of us could work backwards from Z.--Ylnani (talk) 07:23, September 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * No, no I am all for help! I just didn't want to go to pages that were already done. I'll work backwards from Z. --Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 07:28, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

We're done! :) --Ylnani (talk) 07:38, September 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the help! --Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 07:38, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

Now I'm going to look at aliases. Some of them are weird, like they list the birth name even though it's in the opening paragraph. There's also an inconsistency in what to list in the opening paragraph and what to list in the aliases. I think that if most of the person's name didn't change, just their last name, they can be listed in the beginning paragraph. If they had other names that were completely different, I think they should be listed as aliases. What do you think?--Ylnani (talk) 07:41, September 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * A while back I was working on eliminating the redundancy of having aliases listed in the intro paragraph and infobox. I thought I had gotten to them all, but I must have missed some. I agree with what you are saying. For example, with Alexis, I think I left Natasha Cassadine as an alias and the same with Nathan -- James Reeves was left as an alias. But with stuff like Bobbie Jacks, Bobbie Brock, Bobbie Cassadine, etc.. I eliminated that from the infobox and only kept it listed in the intro because it seemed stupid to have married names as aliases to me. --Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 07:47, September 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * I agree. I will look at them. However, should we put (birth name) next to their birth name in the aliases field of the infobox? For example, I'm looking at Karen Anderson. I have Elizabeth "Betsy" Frank and Karen Frank as aliases; should I put (birth name) next to Elizabeth "Betsy" Frank? On one hand, it's kinda cluttered with it in there; on the other hand, it tells people that that was her birth name and not just something she used or called herself at one point. Or, I could leave the Elizabeth name in the opening paragraph and out of the infobox, that would let you know that that was her birth name. What do you think? --Ylnani (talk) 07:52, September 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * If I can help in any way let me know!!!! Lantefan2012 (talk) 07:54, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

Nevermind on the examples. I double checked Alexis, and I didn't leave it as an alias. It's in the intro paragraph and not listed as an alias. Same with Nathan. I don't know if it looks better to leave it as it is, or to take them out of the intro and move them to the infobox? --Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 07:56, September 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * I think that they should only be listed in the opening paragraph if only their last name changed; otherwise, it starts to get cluttered. Anything else should be listed in the infobox. That's my opinion. I think I will go ahead and put (birth name) in the aliases field for now and see if it causes any problems.--Ylnani (talk) 07:59, September 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * I think the (née Elizabeth "Betsy" Frank) in the intro paragraph is sufficient enough because it lets people know that she was born, Elizabeth "Betsy" Frank. Now if we want to eliminate birth names from the intro and move them to the infobox, then an extra (birth name) description will be needed to show it's a birth name and not an original alias. --Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 08:01, September 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * Okay I agree. Looking at the Alexis page it did seem a little cluttered in the intro. Off the top of my head, I think Alexis, Nathan, Liesl, Madeline and Skye are some of the pages that will need to be looked at to make this change. --Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 08:03, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

Take a look at Karen Anderson and Christina Baldwin and see if it looks okay to you. I took their birth names out of the opening paragraph (Christina because her birth name was Christina Devlin, not Christina Gail Devlin) and put them in the infobox. If we don't like it this way, the alternative is to put in the opening paragraph Karen Anderson (nee Elizabeth "Betsy" Frank) and then just Karen Frank in the infobox. And for Christina, to stay consistent, Christina Gail Baldwin (nee Christina Devlin) in the opening paragraph.--Ylnani (talk) 08:06, September 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * The opening paragraph on those two pages does look cleaner now. It works for the Karen page, but the Christina page might cause an issue with consistency. If we put birth last names (for married women, like Benson is listed as Carly's birth last name) along with former married last names in the opening instead of the infobox for all the other characters, then wouldn't having Christina Devlin as an alias look inconsistent, since that is her birth name? Or maybe it's a special case all together because she got a new name when she was adopted?--Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 08:15, September 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * Christina is different. It would be consistent in what I'm doing to put Christina Devlin in the infobox and not the opening paragraph because her middle name is different. She did not have a middle name when born, she gained it when she was adopted. If you just put in the opening paragraph Christina Gail Baldwin (nee Devlin), that implies that her birth name was Christina Gail Devlin, which it was not. --Ylnani (talk) 08:20, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

It's similar with Emily Quartermaine. Since they showed on her grave marker her middle name as Bowen and last name as Quartermine, I fixed that. But in doing that, I took nee Bowen out of the paragraph and put it in the aliases in the infobox.--Ylnani (talk) 08:22, September 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * I see what you're saying now. It would be different for those characters that were adopted. So, just to double check; birth names like Natasha Cassadine and James Reeves would be aliases that go in the infobox and not the opening, former married last names go in the opening and former birth names go in the opening except in the case of adopted characters? Is that correct? --Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 08:26, September 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * An easy rule of thumb is this: the previous last names only go in the opening paragraph if the previous name and the current name are 100% the same except the last name. Otherwise, it goes in the infobox. Does that make sense?--Ylnani (talk) 08:30, September 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * In other words, if you can take their current name and only swap out the last name for the old last name, then it goes in the opening paragraph.--Ylnani (talk) 08:31, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

It does make sense but I think there's an exception to that in Carly's case. She came to town calling herself Caroline "Carly" Roberts as an alias. Charlotte "Carly" Roberts was Reese Marshall's real name and IIRC Carly didn't start using the nickname Carly until after Reese's "death." Since Roberts was later revealed as an alias, would Caroline Roberts go in the infobox, instead of putting Roberts as another last name in the opening?--Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 08:39, September 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, you are correct. Since I've always limited the paragraph to "legal" names, Roberts would still go in the infobox since it was never really her name, only an alias. So, going back to what I said before about swapping only the last name: the only caveat is that it should be a previous legal name to go in the paragraph.--Ylnani (talk) 08:43, September 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * Okay. I understand now. Thanks. --Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 08:49, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

I don't want to sound all authoritarian. lol Is all this okay with you? I was just trying to explain my thinking and what makes the most sense to me.--Ylnani (talk) 08:51, September 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * It's fine with me. I just want a system that works and keeps the pages clean and clutter out the infoboxes. I was trying to make sense of it all and it makes sense now. But I have one last question concerning Nathan. James Nathan Reeves is listed as his name in the opening. Should it be there or in the infobox as a birth name? I don't know if Nathan or James is his legal name? --Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 08:54, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

The only problem I have encountered so far with doing the aliases this way is that you don't necessarily know if what's listed as "aliases" were legal names or not, but I'm not sure that it matters. For instance, Kristina Corinthos-Davis. She was born Kristina Ashton, then she was Kristina Davis, then she got her middle name Adela when she became Corinthos-Davis. So, the infobox says birth name next to Ashton, but someone might assume Davis was just an alias and not her legal name. But, do we care? lol --Ylnani (talk) 09:00, September 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * Sorry, here's the answer about Nathan: --Ylnani (talk) 09:01, September 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I'm having issues with my computer apparently: Okay, since we've decided to do all this the way we have, I'm going to say to put James Nathan Reeves in the paragraph and Nathan West in the infobox as an alias. As far as the audience knows, his name is still legally James. He just said that he has always "used" the name Nathan West for work.--Ylnani (talk) 09:02, September 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * RE: Kristina -- I was just about to say for Kristina and Molly, the Kristina Corinthos/Kristina Davis and Molly Lansing/Molly Davis as aliases is annoying me and looking a lot like clutter, but I know it may be legitimate since Molly was only Lansing for years until she became Lansing-Davis in 2009-10. I'm just not sure if those four names are necessary. Maybe Molly Lansing since that was her name for a long period of time, but since it's not her name now maybe formerly Lansing and Davis, in the opening would be more fitting. Albeit Molly Lansing-Davis (formerly Lansing and Davis) would look kind of silly. Maybe for Kristina, (former name) can go by Kristina Davis and Kristina Corinthos can be taken out since I don't remember Corinthos as her sole last name at any point in time. Davis or Corinthos-Davis was what it was after Ashton.--Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 09:09, September 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * The 'as a toddler' for Kristina Davis works too. --Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 09:13, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

As far as Molly, I'm almost positive her name has always been Lansing-Davis, I thought they said that when she was born. She has only sometimes been called just Lansing or just Davis, so they are in fact aliases, not actual former names. As far as Kristina, Corinthos is just an alias that she is sometimes called, it was never her real last name. On Kristina's infobox, I put (as a toddler) next to Kristina Davis in the infobox to differentiate it from the alias of Kristina Corinthos, since Corinthos was never a real last name. This is all getting very confusing. --Ylnani (talk) 09:14, September 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * I don't recall her ever being called Lansing-Davis until 2009-10 when Ric was out of the picture. I think she was born just Molly Lansing. I'll look up transcripts to confirm. But you bring up another point. If she is just sometimes called Lansing or Davis, I'm not sure if that's necessary to list as an alias. It's not like Morgan, who was enrolled in school as Morgan Benson. I don't think a name that they are sometimes called merits listing as an alias. --Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 09:18, September 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * This is getting confusing because a lot of exceptions or special cases are coming up. Then there are some pages that aren't quite fitting the mold and now I'm questioning the legitimacy of "sometimes names" as aliases. I vote to table this discussion until tomorrow or something and bring more opinions in on it like Lantefan. We should move this discussion to the Forum and make it board-wide. --Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 09:26, September 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * That's fine with me. I'll start a discussion board. I stand corrected on Molly's name. The transcript for November 23, 2005 says she was baptized as Molly Lansing. --Ylnani (talk) 09:32, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

I do feel, however, that "sometime" names like Molly Davis should be counted as aliases because they are aliases. Actually, I just looked up the definition for "alias: a false name used to conceal one's identity; an assumed name." I looked up "assumed: adopted in order to deceive; fictitious; pretended; feigned." So, according to dictionary.com, only names that were never their "legal" name are technically aliases. --Ylnani (talk) 09:38, September 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * Was Molly Davis used to conceal her identity or deceive anyone though? A name like Carly Roberts was meant to conceal her identity and deceive and I don't see that and Molly Davis as one in the same. When I think of alias, I think of Robin using the name Nancy Greene to hide her true identity or Laura as Lulu Thornhill or Morgan as Morgan Benson to hide that he was Sonny's son. --Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 09:42, September 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * I see your point, and I'm fine with leaving it out altogether. But, I think that many users would disagree and think it should be listed somewhere. I've actually had people engage in edit wars over putting Lulu Falconeri, or Molly Davis, etc. on the pages. As an admin, I have to make an executive decision after hearing the different opinions. I'll create a forum and pose the question as far as whether to put names like that in the infobox. I'm trying something new. I've added two new fields in the infobox: birthname and legalname for Birth name and Previous legal name(s). I'm going to try it out on a page and see if it gets too cluttered. If so, I might decide to take it out. Maybe "alias" isn't the right word if we're going to go with the "true" definition of the word. For instance, Laura was also called Laura Faulkner. It was never her legal name, but it also wasn't really to conceal her identity. It was just something she was called. However, it's different from Lulu Falconeri and Molly Davis in that Faulkner was never any part of her legal name, so should it be listed? I think we've delved way too deeply in to this.--Ylnani (talk) 09:51, September 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * I also looked up alias and Merriam-Webster defined alias as "otherwise called or otherwise known as." I suppose that's where Molly Davis would fit in. There are aliases meant to deceive and conceal and others that are just like additional names. But anyways, I'm logging off for the night and I'll check back in on the discussion tomorrow sometime! --Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 09:55, September 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for doing that! According to that definition, those names would work.--Ylnani (talk) 09:56, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

I think I summed all this up in this thread. Let me know if I forgot any important question(s) to ask.--Ylnani (talk) 11:02, September 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm heading over to that thread now. Also, do you notice duplicate sections for alias on Lulu's page? I noticed Molly's page looks the same too. They have aliases listed above and below the nickname section. Can you confirm if this is actually there or just another issue from my end? --Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 18:13, September 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * Lol. You weren't seeing things. It was late when I was working on the infobox and I had moved the alias field, but failed to delete it from the other spot. So, it appeared twice. I fixed it and it should be okay now. Thanks for pointing it out. --Ylnani (talk) 22:19, September 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * Okay. Thanks for fixing it. --Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 00:19, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Me being back on here
I just saw your comment welcoming me back to the wiki. Thanks. I've had some health issues (several other things other than what I talk about next) this year that started just after New Years, and I'm finally feeling somewhat better. I think it's ironic because when Kirsten Storms was on medical leave and it was rumored that it was for endometriosis, I read a lot of things about how it doesn't take that long to get over, yada, yada, yada. I even thought it was kinda odd that it'd take a year. Well, I know it was only rumored it was endo, but I completely understand now. I have endo in my chest (rib cage/lung area). It's extremely rare to get it above your diaphragm, but it apparently does happen. It's excruciating; it's at it's worst cyclically during that certain time of the month, but it hurts at least a little all the time. I've been told and I've read in my research that it takes about a year to get over this, so I now completely get it and regret ever having any doubt that endo would take a year to get over or that someone wouldn't be able to work because of it. I've fortunately been able to work, but my work is awesome and they've let me sit at my desk (instead of out helping customers) whenever I need to. Sometimes I can barely move at all because the pain is so intense, even on all the prescription meds I'm on.--Ylnani (talk) 06:07, September 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry to hear that but I'm glad you are feeling somewhat better now and you were able to take the time you needed to heal. It's very important to take that time and put yourself and your recovery first, as it seems you have done. I'm glad things are getting better now and take as much time as you need. --Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 16:50, September 3, 2014 (UTC)

Pictures in the gallery
What do you think of making separate photo galleries on some of the pages (such as Danny's)? who have multiple actors like I did on Dante and Lulu's page Lantefan2012 (talk) 01:04, September 12, 2014 (UTC)


 * I don't think it's really necessary on the kids' pages, because kids normally go through multiple actors. I think the Lante page is different because they're adults. --Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 01:53, September 12, 2014 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks for your opinion. So do you think that when Jason comes back as Billy Miller I should do the same thing on his couple pages that I did on Dante and Lulu's? Lantefan2012 (talk) 02:25, September 12, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, I think that's a good idea! The Sonny and Carly page is different because the gallery doesn't have that many pictures of SJB or TB, so it makes sense to keep them all in one instead of having three galleries with few pictures in them. But there's potential for many images of new Jason and his counterparts, so I think separate galleries would be more beneficial in that case. --Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 02:35, September 12, 2014 (UTC)


 * Okay sounds good we can work on that together when the time comes :) Lantefan2012 (talk) 04:36, September 12, 2014 (UTC)

Picture categories
I'm sorry, that was so long ago when I deleted those categories that I barely even remember doing it. I think at the time I wasn't really sure what was going on because there were just a few of the categories and I deleted them because they seemed unnecessary and redundant. I get what you're doing now and that's fine. You can add those categories back. I think I'll create new categories for actors/actresses, characters and crew to divide those subcategories so that they're not just all in the images category together.--Ylnani (talk) 09:37, September 15, 2014 (UTC)


 * I guess I won't make those subcategories. For some reason, they don't show up in the images category. Unless I can figure out why, it'll just be the way it was before.--Ylnani (talk) 09:44, September 15, 2014 (UTC)


 * Never mind, I figured it out. They do show up, but they're mixed in with the current subcategories, so I didn't see them. lol Ignore my last post.--Ylnani (talk) 09:47, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

As I'm going through the categories to put them into the subcategories (actors, characters, crew), the only problem I can think of is if someone is looking for a picture of a character, like Gia Campbell, the "Gia Campbell" category will be empty because the only pictures we have of her are actually of the actress. I think maybe we should put a note in the character categories that says "Also see name of actor" or something so that if someone is looking for pictures, they will know to go to that character's actor category.--Ylnani (talk) 10:05, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

I got through J putting all the image categories into subcategories. If you want to work on them, cool. If not, that's okay too. I'm changing all the categories (such as "Images of Carlos Rivera") from the "Images" category to the "Images of Actors/Actresses" or "Images of Characters" or "Images of Crew" categories.--Ylnani (talk) 10:44, September 15, 2014 (UTC)


 * For Gia, the main image that is on her page right now, was a GH photoshoot of Ramirez in character as Gia, so I think the category "Images of Gia Campbell" would be appropriate for that photo. When it comes to photoshoots, some are GH related like the promotional photographs of actors in character. Other images are photographs from shoots that are unrelated to GH. Kelly Theibaud is an example of an actress who has a lot of images uploaded on the Wiki from photoshoots that are unrelated to GH. For those GH related promotional photos, I would add two categories, Images of (character name) and Images of (actor name). --Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 19:25, September 15, 2014 (UTC)


 * As long as it's consistent. I still think there needs to be links in the categories to the other category to cross reference.--Ylnani (talk) 20:56, September 15, 2014 (UTC)


 * That's fine and a good idea. I was just pointing out the difference between GH promotional photoshoots of actors in character and photoshoots unrelated to GH. From Britt, I would put Kelly's promotional photo as Britt under "Images of Kelly Theibaud" and "Images of Britt Westbourne," but her other photoshoots unrelated to GH would just have "Images of Kelly Theibaud." --Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 20:58, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

BTW I forgot to mention earlier, that I'll help with putting the images in subcategories. --Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 21:37, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

Spacing on some of the articles
BlackhawkGirl05 is spacing out the paragraphs in some of the articles (Rafe Kovich, Jr. and TJ Ashford) and I was wondering if you could go take a look and she if you like or if it should be reverted back. Lantefan2012 (talk) 23:53, September 15, 2014 (UTC)


 * It looks better on some articles over others, but what I noticed on the Rafe page is that the spacing made the text in the tabber longer, when the whole purpose of the tabber is to sort the text into sections, so it's not as long on the page. I also didn't think all the spacing in the intros was necessary. I think you can let that new editor know that they had a good idea (so they don't get discouraged from editing), but maybe they should limit the spacing to every 5-6 sentences, since that's how many sentences generally make up a paragraph. --Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 00:03, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

Okay well can you fix anything that needs to be fixed? Emma Scorpio-Drake's and Gabriel Santiago's pages as well and i did message them but i got nothing back soooo far Lantefan2012 (talk) 00:07, September 16, 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm working on another project right now with categories, but I can get around to it. It just may not be immediate. --Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 00:13, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

The actor's name in caption box
So I was thinking and I think you have the same idea as me...that the actor's name in caption does not need to link to the actors page because it already does that right below it... Lantefan2012 (talk) 03:25, September 22, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes. I noticed it being removed on a lot of pages, so I started removing it too to make it consistent across the Wiki. I do agree, the change makes sense. It doesn't need to be double linked. --Sparrowhawk8 (talk) 03:33, September 22, 2014 (UTC)